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SnagIt 9 Or How To Take A Step Backwards In Usability

I’ve been an avid user of SnagIt for a few years now. It’s a great tool for taking screenshots of things and adding boxes, arrows and a variety of effects to explain something. It’s fantastic for putting together documentation or explaining to someone how to use a piece of software. You click a button and it captures either a window or you can draw a box around what you’re interested in. You can then annotate it all you want and save it in the format of your choice. It’s quick, simple and powerful. Well, that is until SnagIt 9.

First of all, let’s look at SnagIt 8:

SnagIt 8

SnagIt 8 is simple. The tools you need are on the left, such as boxes, arrows, highlighter, text and so forth. The image you’ve captured is in the middle and all effects are on the right such as resizing the image, adding a drop shadow, a torn effect (which is what I’ve used), adding a caption and so on. I frequently capture an image, draw some boxes, arrows and text on it, then add an edge effect - usually that torn paper one - then resize it and save it. Since everything is in one place it takes the minimal number of mouse clicks, all the tools such as the arrow tool remember the settings I’d used before (such as the colour, thickness and depth of shadow) so once I’ve used SnagIt one time it’ll remember everything from then on. Simple.

Now let’s look at SnagIt 9:

SnagIt 9

The first thing to note is that it uses the fancy new Ribbon control that was introduced by Microsoft in Office 2007 (it’s the strip at the top of the dialog labelled Draw, Image, Hotspots, Tags, etc. and when you click on one it reveals a bunch of related controls). When Microsoft introduced the ribbon a lot of people complained - people hate change after all. However Microsoft put a great deal of effort into deciding what controls to put on which section of the ribbon so that commonly used controls lived next to each other and were easy to discover. After struggling with it for a bit myself I have to admit that Office is far better for the new ribbon. Sadly I can’t say the same about SnagIt.

While the ribbon looks sexy in SnagIt, it’s pretty clear that not a great deal of thought went into deciding what goes where. OK, there may have been a lot of thought about it, but unlike the Office team TechSmith didn’t have the usability statistics to see how people actually use the product. And in a straw poll of one person (me) I have to say that SnagIt 9 has actually made my life harder and as a result I’ve rolled back to version 8 - the first time I’ve ever preferred an older product over a new one.

Take my standard workflow. I’ll capture an image, draw some boxes and arrows, resize it, add a torn edge effect and save. In SnagIt 8 I’d do the following (and I’m assuming I’ve run through the process previously and SnagIt has saved my preferences):

  1. Capture the image
  2. Click the ‘box’ tool and draw a box
  3. Click the ‘arrow’ tool and draw an arrow
  4. Click the ‘Resize Image’ button on the right and choose the size
  5. Click the ‘Edge Effects’ button then choose ‘Torn Edge’
  6. Save image

In SnagIt 9, things are no longer as simple. Now I have to do the following (and note that I’m assuming I’ve run through the process before so SnagIt should really remember my presets like SnagIt 8 does):

  1. Far too many steps to change the shadow settingCapture the image (same as before)
  2. Click the ‘Draw’ tab
  3. Click the ‘box’ button and find that it’s chosen the default one and not the one I want so I have to…
  4. Click the drop-down next to the styles to find one I’ve saved before in ‘Quick Styles’ noting that after a reboot my quick style has disappeared so I have to…
  5. Use the default box and draw it, then click the ‘Outline’ button and choose the red colour I prefer to the default dark red (note that red isn’t in any of the presets)
  6. Next click Effects > Shadow > More Shadows so that I can change the default shadow (note that in SnagIt 8 I’d do this once only and it would be remembered for ever more)
  7. Click the arrow next to ‘Styles’ to add the current style to ‘Quick Styles’ knowing it’ll be forgotten later
  8. Now to draw the arrow I’ll have to go back to point 3, but click the arrow instead of the box button - sigh
  9. Ok, time to resize the image, that means clicking the ‘Image’ tab
  10. Click Resize > Resize image - pretty much the same as SnagIt 8
  11. Now to add the edge effect, as usual it’s forgotten my quick style so I click Edges > Torn Edges and set the values I want (click ‘Add to Quick Styles’ and hope it’s there next time)
  12. Save image

Ok, I admit that if they manage to fix the fact that the quick styles keep being lost (and kept in view every time) it’ll make things slightly better, but nevertheless for my workflow - which is nothing special - it would mean a lot of flitting between the ‘Draw’ and ‘Image’ tabs and indeed that’s been the frustration. I love the fact that SnagIt 8 has all the tools you need in one place - changing tabs is like walking into another room and it just slows me down. It’s a real shame as SnagIt 9 has a lot of other cool features like being able to do multiple captures in a row and having a library recording all the snapshots you’ve taken. I gave it a few months to see if I liked it but when I happened to use SnagIt 8 on one of my machines it reminded me how much better it was so I rolled back.

I can see why as a software vendor you’d see the Microsoft Office ribbon and want to put it in your application - if nothing else it looks cool - but it’s easy to forget that the ribbon was designed to handle software containing hundreds of functions such as Word and was laid out with a great deal of care and thought. And while it works well in Word it’s not necessarily of benefit to applications with a couple of dozen functions. In the case of SnagIt it takes a light, quick and simple application and makes it just that little bit less light, quick and simple - which for me has always been its defining strength.

If you don’t take a lot of captures or are happy with all the defaults, then SnagIt 9 may be fine for you. But I’m a bit particular and fussy, so all that new GUI just gets in my way and means I’m better sticking with SnagIt 8. Bah humbug!

25 Comments on “SnagIt 9 Or How To Take A Step Backwards In Usability”

Wow. In about 8 years, I think this is the first hint-let of negativity I have ever seen from Mr Conners.

On a more serious note, I’d actually never heard of SnagIt before today (which shows I am in corporate IT hell and not doing enough geeking at home, or maybe I have and I’ve just forgotten about it). I must confess I am not a fan of the “ribbon” even when deployed in a role it was designed to fulfil, so I would imagine having it inflicted upon me in a known and loved app would annoy the pants off me, but I’d have a good old rant rather than write a rational explanation of why I felt that way. :)

I know, I’m usually such a complete optimist! Maybe I’m getting old and grouchy!

Google chat, 12th June 2008, 10am:

John: “hi ian. there’s a new version of snagit out, version 9, and it rocks! you can do multiple captures at the same time, it has a library so it remembers all your captures and it even uses the ribbon control to good effect!”

:-p

Personally I like the new version just for the library functionality - I didn’t like the way that each capture in SnagIt 8 overwrote the previous one.
And I don’t really amend the captures all that much so the defaults work fine for me.

Heh heh, well my first impression was that it indeed did rock - and to a large extent it does - but over time the little things started to bother me more and more. Still, each to their own!

You’ve hit the nail on the head there. (UI design is one of my “pet peeves,” so to speak.) Far to many people are just slapping the “ribbon” interface onto programs that have absolutely no business using a ribbon (or, if they do, it’s all done wrong, wrong, wrong).

I’ve always used a program called “MWSnap” to do screen captures. I don’t know if you’ll like it, but I figured I’d mention it, just in case it helps.

Hi John,

Nice blog.

I can’t agree with you. I have been an avid Snagit user since version 6 and I would have to say that version 9 is a big step up. All I needed was to spend about an hour customizing the quick access toolbar.

I just created buttons of all the commands I normally use, placed them in order (if I do a several steps process) and I had a fantastic increase in workflow.

Now I have access to 39 quick styles and several hundred stamps, shadows and everything I normally use directly from the top bar.

I also did a blog post about Snagit First impression on Snagit Guide and we have gotten a very good response (see: http://www.snagitguide.com/75/snagit-9-first-impressions/ )

Just my two cents ;-)

All the best,
Peter

Thanks Peter! I’m sure that for most people SnagIt 9 is indeed a better experience but for me and the limited way I’ve always used it that’s not the case. The way the GUI was laid out in 8 happened to fit the way I worked perfectly. Since I spend most of my time drawing boxes or applying edge effects / resizing, then the fact that those two functions live on different tabs in the ribbon means I’m having to do more work to get the job done. Sure it’s only an extra couple of mouse clicks but the to-ing and fro-ing adds up.

I guess my main focus was from a user-interface perspective and the choice of using the ribbon because it’s cool rather than useful. SnagIt 9 could have been far more usable and literally had its cake and eaten it had the designers spent more time focusing on usability and less on implementing the latest cool Microsoft control.

That said, I’ll have a go customising the styles and quick access toolbar and see if it changes my mind!

Oh dear! Don’t you like any modern software, John? ;-)

So I take it this means that we won’t be seeing the Ribbon in John’s Background Switcher any time soon? One of the problems with Windows software is that lots of vendors seem to feel the need to copy all the doodats from the latest version of Microsoft Office, regardless of whether they’re appropriate or not.

@Peter - a big step up, after you’ve spent an hour customizing it?! It sounds like TechSmith really have embraced the Microsoft disease that equates more stuff with better.

I know, I seem to be turning into one of those old software guys who doesn’t like anything and reckons nothing interesting has happened in the field for 30 years! ;)

Don’t worry, I’ve read Jensen Harris’s blog about the development of the ribbon and appreciate why it only adds value to software with the amount of functionality Word has. For further reading on the subject:

http://blogs.msdn.com/jensenh/archive/2006/11/10/the-office-2007-ui-bible.aspx

I just saw a website called http://www.jingproject.com/ that has a program that does screen captures, and video casting as well, and lets you share it online.
I did not look into snag it that much, could be it does the same thing…

Hi John – Thank you for your feedback about SnagIt 9. I appreciate it. I have shared your blog post with the SnagIt and Usability teams.

Sorry to hear that you do not like updates to SnagIt 9. I can assure you that we were conducting user studies even before SnagIt v8 was released. And, from our usability testing and beta testing, we learned about how people were using our software and what they weren’t using in SnagIt. During our testing and studies, we explored several different ways of arranging the tools in the SnagIt Editor. Microsoft’s new ribbon interface tested as a fast and easy way for people to learn and use the SnagIt editor.

Keep the feedback coming. We need it. We’re always working on SnagIt and looking to improve it. Would you be interested in participating in a beta or usability test?

Betsy Weber, Chief Evangelist
TechSmith

PS @Shmuli - TechSmith makes the Jing Project too.

Hi Betsy,

Don’t get me wrong, I love SnagIt and always have! I just found that for me the ribbon got in my way more than it helped - although one of your engineers (Adam) was kind enough to point me in the direction of a fix for the ‘Quick Styles’ being forgotten so that’s my major gripe sorted.

I’d be delighted to participate in any beta / usability testing, just let me know. :)

Hi John,

Thanks for the SnagIt love and feedback. :-)

Yep, I forgot to mention the QuickStyles fix. For your other blog readers, they can find it here - http://tinyurl.com/6k5663

I’ll drop you an email about testing.

Bets

I completely agree with you John. I think v9 is too complicated/bloaty and is generally a step backwards. I prefer Snagit v8 and will not be using v9

I think it’s a step backwards. It’s slower to load and where’s my “Done” button. I’ve got to carpal-tunnel my way over to the “x” to close the window. Why black? and stop installing so many add-ins to all the microsoft applications making them slow and buggy…now I’m trying to get back to snagit 8. the extra configuration of snagit 9 may have been killed by making the basics more cumbersome…standard bloatware move (no need to copy microsoft on everything).

I can’t stand the slow performance of SnagIt 9 on my 4 year old machine.

And yes, I had to revert back to version 8.

Maybe when I buy a new PC next time.. but definitely not now :-)

Glad I’m not the only one that finds Snagit 9 a backwards step. Maybe I need to play around and reconfigure things? I don’t know, I never did in Snagit 8 and 7. I’ll give it a bash. If that doesn’t work I’m going back to 8.

I agree about the controls down the left hand side. Much quicker to work with than having to go through menu’s. I’ve been using 9 for several months and frankly find it annoying to use. 7 and 8 were a joy to use and quicker for me.

Cheers
Nigel

I am no expert when it comes to snagit but I just installed SnagIt9 and there are definitely some usability issues. I would consider myself an intermediate user who has used previous snagIT versions to do complex editing (except when it came to multiple layers requiring Photoshop). This time, all I needed to do was to crop an image and resize it. I fumbled my way to the “Image” tab but I still was unable to do this simple function. Every time I click on the crop icon a message displays “there is no area selected.” In version 8, you would deselect the image (click anywhere outside of the image) and then could use any tools. Ugh…to think we were making things better! I’ll play around with version 9 later but for the time being, I’ve reverted to version 8. It seems Techsmith could have used the previous intuitive and simpler interface.

Alex Campbell said on
November 4th, 2008 at 18:02

I found Peter’s comment very telling:
“I can’t agree with you. I have been an avid Snagit user since version 6 and I would have to say that version 9 is a big step up. All I needed was to spend about an hour customizing the quick access toolbar.”

If it takes an experienced user an hour to customize to where he will be more productive, how is the average pre-9 SnagIt user going to function. If that much work is needed, why wasn’t that version of the toolbar introduced as an option.

I am a long-time SnagIt user - daily since 1999 - and I had to go back to 8 as well. For most of the other versions, I upgraded the day they came out. While I did have a problem with 8 where they did away with the table listing of profiles, I finally came around.

I was a SnagIt 9 Beta tester and I had the same problems with the ribbon. I had probably a dozen suggestions and I don’t think any of them got fixed.

The one that was the deal breaker for me so that I could recommend the upgrade to nearly 40 users is the merging of the Catalog Browser into the editing screen. The screen just got too busy and confusing and then the black (and not changeable) background.

Sorry, SnagIt, this dog don’t hunt.

I’ve recently upgraded to SnagIT 9 (from 7) and find it to be a bit cumbersome and a resource hog. There is an unusual capture delay and SnagIT doesn’t appear to play well with RoboHelp (or the other way around) as I can’t have the two apps opened and working at the same time - too slow. (I’ve got 1.5 gig of ram so I don’t think memory is a problem, or is it?)

Yeah, I’ve found it’s definitely slower than previous version - and 1.5GB of RAM is plenty, the software shouldn’t even break sweat with that amount of memory. It’s just the new version to blame I’d say!

That and for some reason Symantec does not like SnagIt. There’s this little thing called snagpriv.exe that runs in the background with tschelp.exe. Symantec detects SnagIt as broadcasting traffic and kicks off a scan causing SnagIt to crash and burn. The System Admins won’t do a thing about it so I have to end both tasks each time I launch SnagIt and hope that it won’t be tooooo slow. I would love to remove snagpriv.exe but software won’t start without it. Am so frustrated and thinking of downgrading.

I landed here on your site after googling a complaint question about snagit 9.
I have been so frustrated with the way it won’t open, then pauses and odd moments it opens after I try to open it.
Then there was the “invalid arguement” problem, which they have a fix for on their website. ( if anyone needs that)
It won’t work when I have certain sites open and overall it has been driving me crazy! It was nice to know some other people feel the same.
I am rolling back to vs 8 as well now. I don’t like the “ribbon” either. I use this for graphics and screen captures, so all the bells and whistles are not something I need.
(plus who has time to learn so many great programs out there)
I am never caught up with all the stuff I own already.
:)

Linda, thanks for sharing that. I thought it was just me suffering the ‘lag’ time. e.g. performing a capture is way slooooowww while waiting for SnagIt Editor to wake up. (already have SnagIt opened and minimized in the toolbar.) Then the delays while editing your shots. yikes.

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